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Don't use Brave Bow on CYL Lyn

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There's no need for Fury, she comes with Swift Sparrow, which also increases arena score.

She does not come with swift sparrow, she has a unique C skill

You have the video in the bulletin board. Both Ike and Lyn come with 3 passives.

Yah, she comes with Swift Sparrow. She and Ike (the first place winners) each have A, B and C skills.

Her speed is perfectly tied with bridelia and she loses 2 Atk to bait mages better, has one movement more, and the 2 points are more than made up for by Hone Cavalry (which ties for if bridelia has Hone attack)

The argument against giving her brave bow is weak and pointless. It will happen, she will kill people, and you will still need to build a counter for her

Well, I just feel people don't understand the potential of Mulagir. She has insane countering with it. When I said she is "inferior to Bridelia", I meant stat wise ONLY. without buffs and team comps.

Only 2 attack less on an equaly reliable quad archer (35 speed) who will be given desperation, Luna, and L&L means essentially *nothing*.

Bridelia was limited and many people siding get her or didn't want to wade through colored summoning hell but now you can score this bitch free.

There is no denying the uses of her inherent legendary weapon but the sheer offense of quad Lyn and her ability to more safely bait mages into desperation (and likely kill them in response) legitimately makes her superior to bridelia in truth. With 4 attacks at 48 power and Luna boosting the last (assuming Attack boon for this build) she will kill anything tanky enough to survive the initial 48x2 that isn't built specifically to counter her like Raven adepts.

Do remember that she loses 4 res tough, so maybe baiting wont be as safe anymore, considering her low hp pool.
Just a thought,
I will try to run a few simulations when kagerochart is updated, and brave bow may well be the superior choice, but its important to keep in mind.

Even if his/her argument is weak, the fact that mulagir is a great weapon still stands.
Sure, she may not be able to quad with it, but getting rid of mages buffs in addition to getting a free speed +3 seems solid to me.
We will have to wait and see which build ends up being stronger.

You're definitely right about that but no one is saying it's a bad weapon in the first place. You're allowed to use whatever you see right but in this situation he's/she's completely disregarding brave bow as an option when to be honest it's a really strong option

This. We understand you're tired of seeing brave bow slapped on everything but if it's a strong option (which it is a VERY strong option) then people will still go for it.

To be fair, a "a worse Bridelia on a Horse" is actually better than B!Cordelia due to being on a horse. Don't underestimate one additional movement and access to cavalry buffs.

This post is dependent on 100% Pure Stats. No buffs, no shenanigans.

I see... So does having three movement count as a shenanigan? Because that alone makes her superior to B!Cordelia the vast majority of the time.

Sidenote: I'm not running Brave Bow on Brave Lyn (if I decide to pull her) but I'm quite happy for everyone else to do it as it makes it easier for me to counter them (for various reasons).

I've learned that using absolutes on the internet never ends well. I think the point you are trying to make is a good one, but whenever people see 'don't use' or 'doing this is terrible' people will get defensive and/or dismiss the notion.

Anyways, I think Lyn is the first archer that won't be, or rather doesn't have to be, shoe-horned into the boring Brave/Firesweep Bow build that everyone runs these days. She's definitely a versatile unit, and I do hope people do try to explore her capabilities.

Assuming you can equpped Mulagir and a Brave at a the same time, then yes, she loses a (hypothetical) 8 Spd.
On an actual note, what appears to be neutral Lyn has 38 Spd, which is just about she needs to be able to quad reliably. 33 Spd (Brave Bow) can get bumped up to 4, then 5 with a +1 Spd Seal. A general rule of thumb is that characters you don't double (well, quad), you'll more than likely 2HKO anyway with the exception being the tougher swordies in Ryoma, Luce and Ike (of which Swordbreaker gets the job done).

If her Spd really is 38 on neutral, then she's a fucking monster with +Spd. 38 Spd is what +Spd Cordelia has, and she doesn't even have budget innate skills like Swirft Sparrow that has her disgustingly butcher her defenses. Lyn can actually tank magic, to an extent. And other than that, a "worse Bredelia" (which literally means only losing 2 points in Atk) heavily makes up and even beats because of Cavalry priviliges (not even talking about Hone, but the mere +1 Mov allows you to control a ton of range; just look at Reinhardt).

From what I take, you sound like you just dislike the Brave-meta. You know, the thing where people lazily try to solve offensive issues by just putting a Brave onto everything? If that's the case (again, assuming), then you're not alone. I hope the meta doesn't entirely shift into that direction, because that makes it a little tasteless and slowly takes actual strategy off the table. I actually happen to prefer single-hit weapons.

The +3 Spd is Permanent from Mulagir. It does not stay if you unequip it. Her neutral spd is 35, its been proven.

It's 38 spd because of the bonus Mulagir gives

If you unequip Mulagir you lose the 3 spd

Brave Bow Lyn will let me bait and kill her with Xander, so I'm cool with that. I'm much more scared of the Mulagir builds. Brave Bow will be better in the hands of the player in all likelihood though.

I think Firesweep and Cancel Affinity is going to be a pain to fight. But honestly, they're all pretty terrifying, I thought about running Xander for her myself, but she has Blessing and possible quad attack Luna against Xander.

Don't forget her Sacae's blessing. It makes Distant Counter useless and Xander won't have the defense to survive her initiation if she runs Luna.

N/m

XD man hit the calcs and witnessed her power.

I don't recall exactly, but you forgot her B didn't you? :P